John Ward March 13, 2013 NEW POPE FRANCIS I IS A JESUIT

NEW POPE: Argentinian surprise as first Jesuit Pope in history elected.

A first in almost every way

The first Jesuit to be elected Pope will be the Buenos Aires Archbishop Jorge Mario Bergoglio. In 2005, he was the runner-up to Ratzinger.

He has taken the name Francis I.

He enjoys a strong reputation on social justice: a humble man from working class origins who travels on the bus to work, has Italian roots, and is very conservative.

“This is signalling a humble Pope close to the people,” said an Italian source.

Above all, he is a major outsider: almost nobody tipped him.

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bobchewie on March 16, 2013 at 8:46 pm

JW sorry but what is ths policy exchange to do with this?

isnt that IDS?

A senior prosecutor says “significant” arrests are being planned in the coming weeks of people suspected of sexual abuse.

Nazir Afzal, chief crown prosecutor for north-west England, said arrests in the wake of the Jimmy Savile revelations would continue.

He said child sex abuse was “more widespread than we ever imagined”.

Mr Afzal made the comments at a seminar organised by the think-tank Policy Exchange.

The prosecutor said: “There are significant arrests scheduled for the next few weeks.

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Clarence J Boddicker on March 14, 2013 at 3:27 pm

Jesuit. One step closer to a return of the Inquisition.

I guess his bus travelling days are over.

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Cris on March 14, 2013 at 12:41 pm

Is he Japanese?

I’ll never forget the Steven Spielberg film 1941 when the Japanese sub surfaces off the west coast of the US, whereupon the Jap officer pokes his head out of the top and shouts “Hollyroooodd. Hollyroooodd!”.

Also containing John Belushi’s second finest role as the madcap P-40 pilot.

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maxter on March 14, 2013 at 11:22 am

guffaw guffaw

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kfc1404 on March 14, 2013 at 8:12 am

Haha! Yes, indeed, tricked again!

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karen393 on March 14, 2013 at 2:51 am

Las Malvinas, por favor!

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John Ward on March 13, 2013 at 11:49 pm

See my comment

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Stuart on March 13, 2013 at 11:17 pm

Strangely enough Argentina, the Papacy and Italy have other links;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due

The list of alumni, includes one Silvio Berlusconi (who he?) Gods Banker Roberto Calvi, and sundry members of the Argentine Junta in power at the time, and one Federico Carlos Barttfeld undersecretary of State in the government of the late Nestor Kirchner…

I suspect that things might start getting interesting, as will the Papacy now take an interest in Las Malvinas?

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Hieronimusb on March 13, 2013 at 11:05 pm

If he ever addresses the Scottish Parliament we could be reading “Frankie goes to Holyrood” (boom boom Mr Derek). But then again….. perhaps not.

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GrahamD on March 13, 2013 at 11:05 pm

Given the present and most likely immenant terminal state of the Argentine economy, a new direct line to Big G may well become Kirchner’s very best (or only) hope !

Having brought both my children up to be “good little athiests” ( yes they did get a choice, before you ask), I’ll still wish this poor sod well at the age of 76… But I cannot see that his appointment can possibly change the hopes or overall ‘lot’ of mankind in any way whatsoever.

Personally by the time I hit 70, let alone 76, I’d prefer not to be taking over one of the largest, wealthiest and probably most corrupt ( in many ways) corperates in the world….God help him (assuming for one moment that Big G is’nt too busy somewhere over on the other side of the galexy right now)

In many parts of the world, threatening the alternative of eternal damnation seems to always do the trick when it comes to the extortion of funds for Priests gold robes, and a 5* Cardinal existence, thanks to the swollen collection boxes from the impoverished masses. Sorry but, the Catholic church seems to me a lot like Robin Hood in Reverse …I’m not questioning or trying to take a pop at anyone’s faith in God …..but I am simply against an organisation that peddles it for vast profit…..and where I cannot help but percieve that in every area it has ‘very serious form’ that power corrupts absolutly and has done so for centuries.

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Bill Casso on March 13, 2013 at 10:45 pm

I find his selection in keeping with the current state of the Catholic church. His one lung should provide more than enough oxygen to keep the lethargic church.alive for a few more years.

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oldasiahand on March 13, 2013 at 9:46 pm

What do you expect? The church has previous in being flunkeys for Fascists (nice alliteration if I say so myself).

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Nick Markakis on March 13, 2013 at 9:45 pm

kfc, we got tricked. It was black smoke not pope :)

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oldasiahand on March 13, 2013 at 9:42 pm

Give them fixed term contracts and at most one re-up like US Presidents!

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Max C on March 13, 2013 at 9:23 pm

@dee. Oi, young whippersnapper. You wait till you get your very own bus pass, and have to plan your journey to take account of pit stops for a pee.
Mick Jagger is nearly there already and I’m only a decade away. Cheeky sod.

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John Ward on March 13, 2013 at 9:21 pm

Well Phil, if you want to hit below the belt based on ignorance, be my guest. I’ll look into what you say.

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Mudplugger on March 13, 2013 at 9:20 pm

Maybe a first Jesuit and first Argentinian, but surely he should be just Pope Francis. A later Francis would be Francis II, Francis III etc. but the first Francis doesn’t need a numerical identifier.
I’ll get my coat……

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Phil on March 13, 2013 at 9:15 pm

http://www.opendemocracy.net/democracy-protest/catholicchurch_2709.jsp

”The dictatorship that followed consigned thousands of Argentineans into military detention. Most were tortured; a few were released, many were eventually murdered. These “disappeared” numbered in all around 30,000.

In 1979, the Inter-American Human Rights Commission visited Argentina and inspected the most notorious detention centre, the Navy Mechanical School in Buenos Aires. They found no prisoners. As Horacio Verbitsky reveals in this extract from his extraordinary book, the prisoners had been dispersed, some of them to El Silencio, an island property that had belonged to an official of the Catholic archbishop of Buenos Aires.

The Catholic church’s complicity in torture and murder in Argentina should be no surprise; it had, after all, long precedents in extreme doctrines that came to Argentina (and elsewhere in Latin America) from the far right in France. But many details of Horacio Verbitsky’s account are revelatory, and his researches are a vital contribution to continuing efforts in Argentina to reach a full historical, legal and moral accounting for the violations of the “dirty war” years. ”

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Phil on March 13, 2013 at 9:12 pm

Would love to hear what he made of the killing of his colleague, Enrique Angelelli, Bishop of the Andean diocese of La Rioja and a supporter of poorer Argentines, by the Videla régime in 1976.

The journalist Horacio Verbitsky has accused the new Pope of hiding the dictatorship’s political prisoners from a visiting delegation of the Inter-American Human Rights Commission, secreting them in his holiday home on an island called El Silencio in the River Plate.

Also, funny how he discovered the cause of inequality during Kirchener’s government – and not before when Menem was in power. It was under Menem and the dictatorship of course when Argentina was saddled with the debt they are now trying to rid themselves from. JW doesn’t mention that it is Vulture Funds like Paul Singer’s which have bought this debt up for pennies. Not bothered about Wall St. when it’s only the ”Argies”?

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kfc1404 on March 13, 2013 at 9:04 pm

He has stepped up to the ‘ockey…

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Chris Loughrey Esq on March 13, 2013 at 9:00 pm

Fair play, Jim Bowen’s done well for himself.

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kfc1404 on March 13, 2013 at 8:43 pm

I was hoping for a ‘black one’ then, apparently that was supposed to be the last Pope..Oh well, as I always say, I live in hope…..Maybe next time.

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Rural voter on March 13, 2013 at 8:33 pm

A vote for a 76 year old could possibly be seen as a vote for a short Papacy, i.e., there’s no great confidence in the candidates on offer but they’d like another go in 5-7 years’ time. If so they’re gambling that he doesn’t have the Windsor family tendency to go on and on!

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Dewi on March 13, 2013 at 8:33 pm

Why isn’t he Jorge 1? I’m not a Catholic, so I’m genuinely curious about the tradition.

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helenchadwickconsulting on March 13, 2013 at 8:33 pm

Interesting that he has chosen Francis – good sign

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hakuna matata on March 13, 2013 at 8:19 pm

Francis is in tribal name, tank fk thers no inglis, wen wil police swoop2arrest offender&media pik up our great work, the twat actually said e loves2c reporters crushed at his feet wen intrviewd by bbc, thats his modus operandi..we got all the police evidence the world cud want. All the best&tanks. Im tired.

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:23:28 +0000 To: princeofwaifs@hotmail.com

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Tigerrose on March 13, 2013 at 8:07 pm

I think if you look up Francis Xavier on Wikipedia you will see what the new pope is all about. In my personal opinion this is an inspired choice.

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Juli on March 13, 2013 at 8:06 pm

New World; Old Order

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Sussexwino on March 13, 2013 at 8:00 pm

My sentiments entirely. The ‘conclave’ funked out; hardly surprising in view of the average age of the punters/cardinals. Can’t see what to celebrate even if I were a left footer. More of the same “totally detached from the real world” until Frankie too decides he’s had enough in 8 years… ‘Nice guy but far too old’ seems to sum up the opinion in the pub. The Rome spin-meisters are already at work on the TV…

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dee on March 13, 2013 at 7:45 pm

76 years old, how bloody ridiculous, most 76 year olds are ready to hit the dirt, not to take the enormous task of pope on! Thank heavens I am not religious lol

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Cris on March 13, 2013 at 7:45 pm

Does this mean that the Falklands might become some form of ‘Holy Land’ in the next few months……….?

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John Ward on March 13, 2013 at 7:42 pm

The headline was written to point out that the Brazilian was running strongly as a 2nd favourite, whereas the Argentinian came up from nowhere: hence ‘surprise’. But yes, I rushed it, and should’ve written my way out of it under the headline…apologies. This is the problem with posting brainless news….I tried to point out why he is a First.

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DomesticExtremist on March 13, 2013 at 7:34 pm

Never nind his nether regions, where’s he from?

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oldasiahand on March 13, 2013 at 7:30 pm

Sorry mate, an Argy!

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devonseaglass on March 13, 2013 at 7:27 pm

It was the hand of God.

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The Red Flag on March 13, 2013 at 7:25 pm

Brazilian? Argie surely.

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