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John Ward March 20, 2014 BUDGET: HOW TAXMEN & TROIKAS CAN NOW STEAL YOUR MONEY AT WILL

GLOBAL LOOTING: how Osborne’s Budget showed his fanatical allegiance to the Troikanaut mentality with two pernicious hidden clauses

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Two major heist tunnels were dug and then hidden by those behind yesterday’s Budget. One gives the HMRC carte blanche to extract “owed” monies from personal bank accounts; the other abolishes all the pension safety rules in favour of giving private pensioners the freedom to take the entire pot to cash….and then lose it when the next bank failure demands a bailin.

Quite a lot of people spotted a Scud flying under the radar in George Osborne’s Budget leech sorry speech yesterday. Last year, I posted several times about Troika fanatics putting pension theft onto the table during “negotiations” with the Samaras Coalition…and floating the idea of going direct to the providers – without bothering to inconvenience the pensioners with needless anxieties about it.

It looks like Osborne was taking copious notes during his stay at Davos last month. Hidden in 5-point flyshit at the rear of the official Budget document is this gem: ‘“The Government will modernise and strengthen HMRC’s debt collection powers to recover financial assets from the bank accounts of debtors who owe over £1,000 of tax.”

Words like wedge, thin and end come to mind. Bear in mind that – in many such cases – the amount allegedly owed will be no more than an HMRC opinion. And we all know how often their opinion is wrong….spookily, almost always in their favour. Note also that there is no reference at all to tax cheats both corporate and personal who evade millions….merely a figure starting at £1,000. It truly is laughable.

But rather more important here is the principle of the Revenue having automatic access to a private individual’s bank account. This would be bad enough on its own were it not for another clause most observers missed. Under new proposed drawdown rules, savers will not only be able to take a quarter of their pension as a tax-free lump sum, they will have a choice of three further options: taking it ALL as cash, subject to ordinary rates of income tax; buying an annuity; or leaving the fund invested in the stock market and making unlimited withdrawals as required. The ability to take the whole pension as one lump of income would mean someone with a £100,000 pension could take £25,000 tax-free and then withdraw the remaining £75,000 to spend or invest as they saw fit.

And it would, of course, mean that under a bank-failure bail-in, that person would be seen as a creditor. So, with the precedent set by the HMRC and the rape of Cyprus, um, well –  a nod’s as good as a wink to a blind horse.

It beggars belief that the Chancellor of the Exchequer was able to steamroller this complete change of direction through, without being forced by law to make the clause clear to all concerned. Every single Parliamentary convention and financial law would make such behaviour in the private sector a criminal offence.

Consider this example: an upcoming retiree of limited means with a small private pension finds himself with a wife whose chronic illness has been means-tested and found to be unfundable by the NHS. So Mr Retiree grabs the Osborne carrot enthusiastically, and begins to search private hospitals for ways to ensure his spouse is comfortable. But the following week, RBS collapses, his account is frozen – and he loses the lot.

Don’t tell me that Georgie-Porgie and the other sociopaths in the Treasury and at the HMRC haven’t thought this one through. (If they haven’t, why introduce it now?)

I will continue to repeat the following assertion, and I care not a jot if those walking around with their eyes and ears shut think it to be melodramatic paranoia. We are witnessing a hidden but accelerating coup here. Having sold the family silver in the 1980s and let loose unregulated bankers on the world, the political class is now burning the furniture in order to keep the tramp steamer heading for any port in a storm.

The next step will be to rip the shirts from our backs, followed by the underwear. This will reduce economic consumption to near zero…as it has in Greece, Spain and Italy. But these lunatics don’t care: they just want enough munneee to buy gated glitz bricks, gold, arable land and rare earth materials before everything goes flushing down to the sewer.

Only then, floating along in the sewer with the other turds, will they feel at ease….and safe.

Earlier at The Slog: Floods that can’t happen in Ebbsfleet, er, happening.

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    Unknown's avatar
    At the End of the Day | The Slog. on March 22, 2014 at 10:15 pm

    […] Recently at The Slog: Why we’re all up shit creek without a paddle […]

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    Linda Fisher on March 22, 2014 at 8:22 pm

    This has always existed in France, everyone knows this, or should do, but this is new in the UK and smacks of desperation, but bet you one thing, the people who owe millions will get away with it. The ordinary person will be shafted!

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    Bob Fox on March 22, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    From the government accounting perspective the tax relief is deferred until the pension is paid, when the tax is paid also. The new system would result in tax income earlier for the exchequer. Offset against this is fewer bonds sold to annuity companies( money loaned to the government).
    Although I would not disagree with the cynicism expressed above, I suspect that the motivation for change is the decline in faith in pension saving. The shortcomings of pensions are becoming well known, which threatens the flow of government bond money from pension funds to government.

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    Woodgnome on March 22, 2014 at 1:36 am

    Lol.

    I’m still owed 104 quid by Wigan Council. My Dad died 11 years back and before the scumbag solicitors would release the 60-odd grand that me and my brothers had been left, we had to settle the estate. Dad died on the 6th of April (coincidentally, my brother’s birthday – shitty luck, huh!), so we’d entered a new tax year and thus he was liable for Council tax for that year, since he was still breathing the wrong side of midnight. We got Wigan Council to accept that he was dead and therefore wouldn’t be using any services for which he’d have to pay but, arseholes that all government tit-suckers are, they decided we still owed partial payment. Since Dad lived on his own, he got a Council tax discount of ~50%, so they unilaterally decided that payment of one quarter would settle the matter and let us clear the estate dues and get our money. I duly paid this, after being assured that it would be refunded in full, less the amount of council tax due for 1 DAY. I’m still waiting!

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    Woodgnome on March 22, 2014 at 1:24 am

    Typically, I have whatever it takes to cover the next direct debit, plus 1p, in my bank. I do, however, have a lot of stored food, fuel, a 12v lighting system with solar/wind and backup batteries, a woodburner, plenty of wood, a big aquaponics setup in the greenhouse, all south-facing walls vertical gardened…. wealth doesn’t neccesarily have a picture of the Queen on it.

    Though sadly, I lost all my gold and silver in a tragic boating accident!

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    Woodgnome on March 22, 2014 at 1:18 am

    @bill40.

    They have the obvious out, anyway. If we’re starting to suffer hyperinflation, which inevitably we will as a matter of mathematical certainty, they merely drag out the 80k guarantee process until 80k is worth approx a loaf of bread, then pay up with a shit-eating grin. Remember, the ‘classical economics’ approach to combating inflation is high interest rates, so your mortgage payment will be 200 million a month, by that point.

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    Woodgnome on March 22, 2014 at 1:10 am

    Got to love that bit of naivety, mate. ALL your money, property, etc belongs to the state for one simple reason; they have all the guns!

    It’s not complicated: You MUST pay your taxes in UK Pounds. Your taxes are whatever the governemnt says they are and you have no say in the matter. If you cannot pay said taxes, you WILL be forced to sell your assets to raise the appropriate amount of £££. If you refuse to pay your taxes, you WILL be arrested and your assets seized. If you resist arrest strongly enough, you WILL be shot.

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    Unknown's avatar
    John Ward – An Appeal To Labour Party Members: Fire Your Leadership – 21 March 2014 | Lucas 2012 Infos on March 21, 2014 at 1:17 pm

    […] That thought occurred to me last night as I lay in bed. This morning, it seems pretty clear from some reports that pension providers told George Osborne in no uncertain terms what his effective abolition of pension protection would do to the industry. So I’m more than ever inclined to believe that the chap in Number 11 wants to reduce the pension-pilfering backlash by ensuring that, in short order, the electorate gets used to the idea of pensions being a thing of the past. (He also wants their money in current accounts so he can bail them in as and when, but we’ve covered that one already). […]

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    penniewoodfall on March 21, 2014 at 10:46 am

    Thank you Alexei .I had not seen this interview.
    So many levels of understanding. Beautiful.

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    Unknown's avatar
    AN APPEAL TO LABOUR PARTY MEMBERS: FIRE YOUR LEADERSHIP | The Slog. on March 21, 2014 at 10:27 am

    […] That thought occurred to me last night as I lay in bed. This morning, it seems pretty clear from some reports that pension providers told George Osborne in no uncertain terms what his effective abolition of pension protection would do to the industry. So I’m more than ever inclined to believe that the chap in Number 11 wants to reduce the pension-pilfering backlash by ensuring that, in short order, the electorate gets used to the idea of pensions being a thing of the past. (He also wants their money in current accounts so he can bail them in as and when, but we’ve covered that one already). […]

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    penniewoodfall on March 21, 2014 at 10:01 am

    Brilliant Maxter!

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    Hieronimusb on March 21, 2014 at 9:59 am

    Chancer

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    kfc1404 on March 21, 2014 at 7:22 am

    Yes, I’m going to spend 90% of mine on Sex, Drugs and Rock n Roll, and then waste the rest..

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    alexei on March 21, 2014 at 2:03 am

    @Pennie
    Thank you for that link – it was moving. Did you also see his interview for Canadian TV –
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVQlJeESUgo .

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    aflatoxin on March 21, 2014 at 1:13 am

    that was to indigo

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    aflatoxin on March 21, 2014 at 1:12 am

    Bingo.

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    joekano76 on March 20, 2014 at 11:54 pm

    Reblogged this on TheFlippinTruth.

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    chris Loughrey esq on March 20, 2014 at 11:14 pm

    I know it sounds simplistic but:

    Close the bank account. By pulling the entire pension pot you could have a very solid ATM under the bed (it isn’t like the interest on the account is worth jack-s**t anyway) and you could make your own long term, far less traceable investments.

    Or you could spend it all on black jack. And booze. And hookers.

    On second thoughts, forget the black jack. And the booze.

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    Unknown's avatar
    At the End of the Day | The Slog. on March 20, 2014 at 11:10 pm

    […] Earlier at The Slog: Why Osborne’s Budget was a faithful straight-armed salute to neoliberalis… […]

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    theguvnor on March 20, 2014 at 9:59 pm

    A cryptic crossword clue: Chancellor loses 2 pounds and nothing more to reveal is true character

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    Impoverished Psychologist's avatar
    Impoverished Psychologist on March 20, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    Good point…

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    Mudplugger on March 20, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    In practice, and in the event of a bank bail-in when the government defined the haircut percentage as a ‘tax’, this measure would then conveniently enable HMRC to collect it all immediately and automatically (and certainly before the bank re-opens after its crisis). That’s a more serious concern than simply owing a bit of overdue Income Tax.

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    the ghost on March 20, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    +1 mainly because millions have less than £500 in the bank,

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    the ghost on March 20, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    Yes this is another bail in ,in a new form,cash in pension pay debtors/mortgage keep on working to you drop

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    woodsy42 on March 20, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    But John, you are in France are you not? And presumably you have a french bank account to make life easier? If you dispute the local taxes the authorities will freeze all or part of your bank account – I know this, been there.
    So OK they don’t actually take the money, but you can’t have it either, until the dispute is settled, neither did they warn me first. In my case I won, but not before having to pay the incorrect bill and then wait for the full repayment because it was in error (which was what I had been telling them). Sounds a familiar tax collector tactic too doesn’t it

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    the ghost on March 20, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    +1
    But i am sure most didn’t realise protectionist Flat earth economics was the true goal behind the rhetoric of free markets,this is freeing bankers not pension holders under do no harm Libertarian belief’s of profiteering of those they can
    Has i have said before the American dream is what is sold to you,to see the reality of that dream visit any ghetto in any American city

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    KJH on March 20, 2014 at 8:11 pm

    Homunculus! Wow. Respect DE. I shall steal it to describe Willie Hague

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    the ghost on March 20, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    Indigo to add to that point by taking away the safety of inaccessibility any creditors could now force people to take there pensions to pay them in full.but little if anything for later,so they will have to work to they drop & the next generation will have to wait to build their pensions to pay of there debts Graduate or any other kind to survive,unless true values are restored to money & labour failure is assured,this measure is one of desperation they do not know how to create wealth just steal it,just like the medieval lords burn others crops to increase the value of the poor quality crops they’re producting

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    Richard on March 20, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    I find it surprising that those leaving comments all seem preoccupied by the changes in pension legislation etc rather than the introduction of Stasi like new powers of confiscation by the reviled HMRC. Confiscate your money direct from your bank account and it is up to you to prove innocence and probity and get it back…not a pleasant place to be, and fundamentally contrary to everything this country should hold dear. A disgrace.

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    DomesticExtremist on March 20, 2014 at 7:41 pm

    The obvious sting in the tail comes when Ian Duncan Smith, or his homunculus
    successor, decides that those over 55 who become unemployed should be
    obliged to cash in their pensions before becoming entitled to benefits payments.

    Mark my words…

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    indigoboy on March 20, 2014 at 7:40 pm

    I agree that the ‘pension pot’, is your money to spend how you like, but the point I’m making is that the freeing up of this pot of money may now be considered in the same way as equity in your home. Thus, if you do the right thing and keep your pension pot for your retirement, you risk that if you need care, your pension pot is now ‘..savings..’, and hence accessible directly by the state for your care.?

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    Ray on March 20, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    Bail in number 2. Zerohedge headline “Ukraine Goes Cyprus 2.0, To Tax Deposits Over 100,000 Hryvnia (To Appease IMF?)” This is further to the news last week that a 25% deposit “tax” was being considered all part of the global looting or freedom via the USA/EU. Look no further than Cyprus and Greece.

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    kfc1404 on March 20, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    Remember a little while back I said: ‘You Ain’t Seen Nothing Yet?” Well, You Ain’t Seen Nothing Yet.
    They will impoverish all in their quest to appease Brussels and remain in power.

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    Unknown's avatar
    John Ward – Global Looting: How Osborne’s Budget Showed His Fanatical Allegiance To The Troikanaut Mentality With Two Pernicious Hidden Clauses – 20 March 2014 | Lucas 2012 Infos on March 20, 2014 at 6:31 pm

    […] http://www.hat4uk.wordpress.com / link to original article […]

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    Le Gin on March 20, 2014 at 6:25 pm

    And how many multiples of 85k do you think reside in the DPS?

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    penniewoodfall on March 20, 2014 at 6:20 pm

    The Awesome That Defines Awesome http://pavlovscat2.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-awesome-that-defines-awesome.html …

    Since, I am heading east……I leave you this.

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    Lupulco on March 20, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    @Mudplugger
    I forgot about the % only mortgages, I suppose if all those pensioners defaulted it would collapse both, Housing and Banks.
    So maybe George is slightly ahead of Gordon in fiddling figures.
    Still it will be cheaper then bailing out the Banks again.

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    FrankS on March 20, 2014 at 6:16 pm

    Well it does mean that annuiity providers no longer have, collectively, a captive market – which might give them the incentive to come up with more attractive offers.

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    Nhoj on March 20, 2014 at 6:12 pm

    A vert good point Indigo, but on balance, having saved for a pension that money is your own – not the states.

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    Lupulco on March 20, 2014 at 6:12 pm

    I think it is a brilliant idea for people to get their hands on their pension pot early.
    a] The government gets its hands on your money earlier. [Shot-term gain to the exchequer.]
    b] This will also kick start a new wave of employment. [people offering to look after your pension pot, for a fee]
    c] If you run out of your money, or simply live too long, you will have been deemed to have wasted it.
    d] Has the new super duper state pension is now a fact, there will be no need to give you further benefits.
    Has all this will reduce Government spending by [whatever] and we shall have balanced the nations books by then, we can reduce the tax rates for the 1% at the top who fund the political parties, so forget voting Labour in the next election. Because if elected it will only carry on with the Conservative manifesto [but without the referendum] just like Tony did when he took over from Maggie, sorry John Major.
    Names or parties are irrelevant, the people who are really in charge will still be telling them what to do.

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    Mudplugger on March 20, 2014 at 6:12 pm

    Another theory about the pension/annuity change.

    A time-bomb lurks – loads of folk have interest-only mortgages now approaching maturity, just when those folk are approaching retirement, yet they have no funds available to pay-off the huge capital sum, usually many tens of thousands.
    By allowing then access to their personal pension pots, it becomes feasible to avoid a flood of tabloid sob-stories about grannies being evicted etc. True, they’ll then have no personal pension income, but hey that’s tomorrow’s problem – the folk who walked blindly into interest-only mortgages tend not to think too far ahead.

    Gideon Osborne may have been very cunning in heading off some of that time-bomb – or maybe I credit him with being a tad too smart.

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    maxter on March 20, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    Off topic again…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUPBCAzThOsJvuVrykYPCdzQ&v=zcmOvL75J-o

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    bill40 on March 20, 2014 at 5:42 pm

    @ Harry,

    You have more faith than me if you think that guarantee will be honoured in a crisis. All in it together etc….

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    indigoboy on March 20, 2014 at 5:41 pm

    There are some good points in this article, but I must add another level of cynicism here. This freeing up of ‘the pension pot’, may appear to be a good idea on the surface, but what needs to be clarified is whether someone of age 55+ who loses their job, or becomes disabled or gets early dementia and needs care, is denied means tested benefits because they are considered to have ‘savings’, which a few days ago was considered to be an inaccessible pension pot?
    (In short ~ is the state going to say to an individual who finds themselves in financial difficulties, “…you must burn through your pension pot/’savings’ first, before you will get state help?”)

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    bill40 on March 20, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    The bankers will not rest until they have our savings, pensions, but above all, the equity owned in residential property. Mark my words they’ll find a way.

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    Maria das Santos on March 20, 2014 at 5:38 pm

    Will this include the criminal off shore banks?

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    Harry V Derci on March 20, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    Paranoia runs deep, into your lives it will creep etc…the deposit guarantee is for up to 80k so how would that 75k get seized/bailed in? Oh, they’re just going to renege on the guarantee and watch the other banks collapse in a bank run..right! Wish I’d thought of that.

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    Chris on March 20, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    Too late for me, but I’d have welcomed the chance to get to spend all my little pension pot, while it was still worth something.

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